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[Talonman]

This is a quote from another not so import friendly forum I'm on but still funny.

Not a good situation for Toyota or the owners, but great for GM

"Toyota moving forward, whether you want to or not"

[samol_hok]

i guess toyota prefers to keep there customers alive unlike GM
 
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Defective Gas Tanks

Many older cars and trucks come with a side saddle gas tank or a side tank mounted outside the frame of the motor vehicle. Motor vehicles with side saddle gas tanks can be very dangerous because vehicle occupants have no protection if the gas tank explodes during a motor vehicle accident. Gas tanks of newer motor vehicles are inside their frames.

Unfortunately, the public has not been notified of all the dangerous risks associated with trucks and cars designed with side saddle gas tanks. Some car manufacturers prefer to save the money it would cost them to fix this design defect rather than stop manufacturing trucks and cars with side-saddle gas tanks. There are many examples of the design defects in cars and motor vehicles still on the road today.

Public Citizen reports that General Motors has successfully resisted a recall of 9 million C/K Pickups that had exploding gas tanks that have led to the fiery deaths of over 725 people.  By 2000, GM had settled $495 million worth of secret settlements and paid the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) $51 million to stop a 1994 investigation on the C/K’s gas tank defect that would have potentially led to a recall of the deadly vehicles.

Many people have also been killed or seriously injured because ofdefective gas tanks that were found in certain Ford Pinto models. Ford recalled about 1.5 million Pintos because a gas tank design defect made it more likely to catch fire and explode during rear-impact accidents.
Defective Gas Tanks in Police Cars

The Crown Victoria, used in many US states as police cars, has a history of fatal gas tank explosions. Many police officers have died because their police cars had defective gas tanks. The U.S. government has launched an investigation into the design defects of the Crown Victoria Police Interceptor and the Crown Victoria.

Passengers and drivers of motor vehicles that are survivors of accidents involving exploding gas tanks are usually left with serious injuries, such as severe burn injuries, permanent physical and emotional scars, and disfigurement,. Do not hesitate to contact our Philadelphia auto products liability lawyers right away to discuss your gas tank explosion injury case.

The Philadelphia injury lawyers at Reiff and Bily work on a contingent fee basis, charging a small percentage of the recovery.  There are no legal fees unless there is a successful recovery.  They have had handled thousands of injury cases in Pennsylvania and have successfully recovered in excess of $150 million dollars on behalf of their clients from their opponents for physical injuries and emotional damages.

[Spec Volcanic]

I have driven a V6 camery and I would not be concerned if it was stuck at WOT... I have that farts that accelerate faster

[Syritis]

same with my standard truck.

Apparently some guy rammed his toyota tundra into the dealership and said his throttle was stuck. toyota suspects that the driver was angry about the recalls.

am i wrong or has there only been one? floor mats jamming the pedals. the first tried to fix it with more heavy duty fasteners then they realised people were using cheap universal floor mats that didn't fit so they changed the pedals to allow the floor mats to slide up without interfering with the pedals.... here's a simple fix, don't be an idiot and use cheap knock off parts.

[Talonman]

Hmmm, well I meant good for GM now.

I bet if I looked around the net I could find much the same for other companies as well, not saying GM had not made mistakes I was just saying it is good for them now to get some market share back.

I like GM, I have owned many and own two now that will be replaced with more GM when the time comes, all cars have issues and imports are just as bad IMO but the domestics get dragged throught he mud if they mess up but the Japanese companies seem to get off a bit easier in the media and public, double standard.

[cloud7]

Toyoda seemed to went down hill after they got out of F1... there is a lesson to be learned here.

[samol_hok]

i just think they did not want to spend money they didnt have to spend
i think with this economic state leaves opening for independent teams to step up to the plate with alot less factory support

[JTC]

but the domestics get dragged throught he mud if they mess up but the Japanese companies

This kills me! "domestic" cars and "foreign" cars!  There is no such thing as a "domestic" Canadian Car! They are all foreign! Toyota, Honda assembly cars in Canada along with Ford, GM and Fiat nee Chrysler, nee Mercedes etc..
In fact the jamming throttle in the Toyota;s are manufactured in Ontario by a Canadian parts supplier!

All the auto "manufacturing" in Canada is simply assembly plants!

There is no such a thing as a domestic Canadian car! They are all designed by foreign companies and merely assembied in Canada.

[Talonman]

I was not saying where they were made just where the companies are based.

Honda and Toyota can do no wrong but GM is just total crap, that mindset is total crap IMO. That is all I meant.

[Audi200tq]

All car companies have their problems.  From a PR perspective, the difference is in how they handle it.

Ford, GM and Chrysler, unfortunately, have a history of attempting to hide safety problems (Ford Explorer tires, exploding Pinto, Corvair suspension, etc etc).  Toyota in this case, for the most part, is coming across as upfront and honest.  As long as they continue to do so, they will restore their image with the public over a relatively short time.

[Towona]

A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?

You wouldn't believe.

Which car company do you work for?

A major one.

[Spec Volcanic]

A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?

You wouldn't believe.

Which car company do you work for?

A major one.

That's just good business

[tsi_neal]

isnt that a quote from thank you for smoking?

[GrantC]

isnt that a quote from thank you for smoking?

The first rule of Fight Club is, you do not talk about Fight Club.

[Talonman]

That was a good movie.